Stories From a Mentally Ill Inmate: Where Fantasy and Certainty Collide

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[instrumental music] From the PenPals.buzz corporate headquarters- quarters in Northern California, right next to the abandoned beauty salon, it's the Prison Pen Pal- Pen Pal Podcast. 

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Hear stories from real inmates who wanna write to you, from free world people who enjoy writing prisoners, and for just about anyone involved in the world of prison pen pals. Pen pals. 

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On today's episode... 

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We had 27 kids together. 

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27 with one woman? 

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The oldest 3 was triplets, 2 boys and one girl, and it was 4 sets of sextuplets. 

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Now, here's your host of the Prison Pen Pal Podcast, Big Steve. 

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Hang on, hang on. I'm, I'm here. I'm here. Barely making it into the studio today. That's me, Big Steve, and it is the Prison Pen Pal Podcast. Daisy is on her way in. I see her. Hey. I'm waving through the window. She's making her coffee right now. We're gonna be chatting with Danny Terron-Roney, who has an incredible story to tell. Incredible. That's all I'm gonna say for now. Uh, we'll hear the story straight from his mouth here in, in just a few seconds. But I have a belief that women get less privileges, fewer privileges than men do. We send, you know, the same flyer out to 20 facilities in the same state, and the women's facilities seem to reject our flyer. The men are allowed to have it. When we send messages on Securus talking about pen pals, the men usually get the messages, the women don't. So if you're in one of these states, you, you have these experiences, or maybe not, maybe you think, "We, we get more stuff than the guys," just call us and, and share your opinion at 888-2penpal. That's 888-273-6725, or email podcast@penpals.buzz. All right, Danny Roney. 

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Thank you. Hello. 

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Tell us what's going on with you, man. 

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My birth name is Danny Terron-Roney. 

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I changed my name back in 1995, '94 to Khalid Abdul Al-Mu'min based on religious beliefs. But in '95, I enlisted in the United States military through Fort Jackson Army Base in Columbia, South Carolina. That's when I enlisted in the military. But I wanna go further back. I was born in Norristown, Pennsylvania. One mom, never knew my dad. My mom was abusive, so I, I had to run away when I was 5 years old because if I didn't, she would've killed me. I found out that I was going... came into this world with a mission to fix this world when I grow up as a prophet, but many people didn't know I was gonna come in this world as a prophet. But I was told by Angel Gabriel that I was gonna be a prophet in this world. 

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When did you find that out? 

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The 1st time I found it out, I was a little kid, but I found out from the devil himself. I was 4 years old. At the time, my mama was in prison for killing a guy. She had stabbed a guy 54 times in his sleep. She said every day her makeup was 2 black eyes. She told me when I was a kid. 

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Mm. 

00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:26,670 [Danny Roney]
So she killed him. So, um, I was in the, um, playpen one day, and the devil came and was talking junk to me. You know how little kids are. You know, they, they talk junk back. 

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Yeah. 

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And I was talking junk to the devil, and the devil slapped, just real off and slapped the mess out of me, and I was crying. And my aunt and her daughter was inside the kitchen. I was in the living room in the apartment complex in Columbia, South Carolina. 

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You were around 5 at this time, or is this after? 

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4, 4, 4. 

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4 years old, okay. Wow, that's gotta be traumatic. 

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I was 4 years old. 

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I, I actually used to, um, I used to think that Mr. Rogers, he had this make-believe and King Friday from Mr. Rogers used to- 

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Yeah 

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... come to my window. Scared the crap out of me. I was, like, 2 or 3. But I, I can't even imagine if the devil were there. 

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He ended up introducing himself to me and my family that day. He told my aunt that she gonna have to teach me some Islamic Christianity and all the different religions 'cause when I grow up, I'm gonna have to go against the devil in this world and fight against him. 

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Mm. 

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And so, um, that's the beginning of my aunt mission. She started teaching me Christianity 'cause that was her religion. She didn't know much about Islam- 

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Mm-hmm 

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... or nothing like that. But the devil explained to her that the, um, Bible had been tampered with and, um, that he- she needed to get a Quran and read the Quran- 

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This call is from a federal prison 

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... and teach me the Quran and stuff. So sh- when she finally got a Quran, she didn't understand it that well, and she just taught me... She just went on ahead and taught me her Christian ways and stuff. But when I went up north, like the day I turned 5 years old, August 31st, 1981, my mother had, must have had already got out of jail, out of prison, came down south and got me from my aunt house and took me back up north to live with her in Norristown, Pennsylvania. So when I went up north, my mama was real abusive, real abusive. She, she was illiterate, 

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and she didn't know how to take care of kids. She had another child, which was my brother, my little brother- 

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Yeah 

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... who was living in the house. But she was so abusive, I kept hearing her friends say, "If that boy was old enough, he'd run away from home and never come back." She... 'Cause her friends used to be like, "She always fucking that boy up. She beating that boy like he a grown man." 

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Yeah. 

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So I was really, really abused. So I kept running aw- I kept running away, and I would live in this old abandoned building behind where we stayed, a old steel mill. She had taught me survival techniques a little bit, because she had me washing dishes, cleaning clothes in the tub with a plunger, 

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wringing clothes out, hanging them up on the line outside in the back. I'm 5 years old and I'm doing grown people work. And if I didn't do it right, I'd get beat real bad with stinging cords, drop cords, rose bush switches. She used to mess me up. She didn't have no understanding. She was, uh, really illiterate. So I ran away and ended up living with some gang members up the street called Crips up in Norristown, Pennsylvania. 

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And I went on a rob with them. They was robbing banks, and they would take me everywhere they go, make sure nothing happened to me. They loved me so much. But they started teaching me how to use a gun. 

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Now, let me tell you, in 1995, Bill Clinton gave me a pardon for all the criminal activity I did. He gave me and everybody associated with me a full pardon. He just wanted to know the, the full truth for everything that I did in my life. And once I remember, if I didn't remember at the time, he told me to let him know so they could make the movie out of my life. Well, they made a movie, but it wasn't complete to the fullest like I thought it should be complete now that I think of it today. The military used to sell the movie back in the days. So- 

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When, uh... I just, I, I... Sorry to interrupt you. So shall we call you... Would you prefer to be called... Is it Khalid or, or should we call you Danny here as we're talking to you? 

00:07:46,968 --> 00:07:50,068 [Danny Roney]
You can call me Danny. I don't want to mess up anything. 

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Okay. 

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You can call me Danny. 

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Just so if people do wanna write to you from the pen pal site, they, they're getting the name that'll actually get delivered to you would be good. But I, I wanted to just interrupt because I wondered what age were you when you ran away with the Crips and you were learning how to use guns? And then, uh- 

00:08:10,568 --> 00:08:10,928 [Danny Roney]
What- 

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... what, what age when you got that pardon? 

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I, I was 5 years old. I was 5 years old. 

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I was... All I did was my mama left me at the house one day with her and her boyfriend, and she took my brother somewhere with her, left the house. They left me in the corner, standing up in the corner with one leg up, my head facing the ceiling, and my hands behind my back. And I had to stay in that position. If I dropped my leg, I'd get beat. But being that she was home- she wasn't home, I would let my leg down to the floor, one of my legs, the other leg down to the floor. So I just packed up some stuff, some food and stuff, in a little bag and threw it out the window and climbed out the window to the, to the front porch and left the house, and ended up going to an abandoned building to stay in for a few days. Then I went and stayed with the Crips. They ended up taking me in, 'cause they used to see me every day going by their house, going to s- to the bus stop with blood dried up on my face and head- 

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Mm-hmm 

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... from when my mama was messing me up real bad, beating me. 

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She, she would abuse me real bad. So they ended up taking me in. I told them I'd take their jump in if, if long as they don't break none of my bones, 'cause if my mama beat me, I could, I could handle it. I could withstand my mama beatings long as she ain't breaking my bones, and y'all ain't breaking my bones, I could take y'all jump in so I could have a place to stay, 'cause they wasn't gonna let me stay with them if I wasn't a part of their crew. 

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Mm-hmm. 

00:09:52,128 --> 00:09:59,108 [Danny Roney]
So I... They beat me up like a little... They didn't beat me like a grown man, but they just kicked my little butt 

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to let me know that's how they do it, you know, to, to, to jump me in, period. 

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And they let me stay with them. And so 

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they trained me how the Viet Cong trained theirs, their kids to fight against the American soldiers. But I was fighting against the rival gangs throughout Philadelphia and Norristown. 

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And I would go in... You wouldn't expect a kid to come and kill you and the queen, the OG and the queen. 

00:10:34,068 --> 00:10:34,848 [Big Steve]
Right. 

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I would be the kid to come in and kill the OG and his queen and his lieutenants, 

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completely scar 

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that gang from thriving anymore. Once I get the OG and the queen, 

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I get the 2 heads out and some of the lieutenants. 

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I want to, uh... Before we, before we go too much further, I just wanna let everyone know how to get in touch with you. If they wanna learn more about your story, it's Danny Terron, T-E-R-R-O-N-Roney, R-O-N-E-Y, 16494-171. You're at the Federal Medical Center, which is PO Box 1600, Butner, North Carolina 

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27509. Or they can, uh, also message you on CoreLinks once they get the invitation from you. Go to penpals.buzz and just search for Danny, and you can read, um, his full profile and see some photos 

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in the profile. I mean, you mentioned this thing that you've been, you've been pardoned by multiple presidents, 

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and you were actually- 

00:11:44,048 --> 00:11:44,888 [Danny Roney]
Yes. 

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You were released from prison, 

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I think it said 9 times. 

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Several times, numerous, over 30 times, to be real. 

00:11:53,048 --> 00:11:53,888 [Big Steve]
Over 30 times? 

00:11:53,888 --> 00:11:55,268 [Danny Roney]
It was literally over 30. 

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It was literally... They got to the point where they got tired of... I was considered supposed to been their best guy that they ever had in the military. And it was like, "Well, if he the best guy, how is he letting these, these people do this stuff to him like this?" ... and keep getting them back in prison. But I didn't know it was a catch to it all. 

00:12:20,216 --> 00:12:26,496 [Danny Roney]
It was the guy, Lloyd Austin III, Lloyd J. Austin III, who was the Secretary of Defense, 

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the Black guy- 

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Mm-hmm 

00:12:29,056 --> 00:12:44,576 [Danny Roney]
... he the one that kept sending me back to prison. Then when he'd get back to the Pentagon, he would tell them I, they, I just disappeared out of his, out of his custody. He don't know where I went to. I just ha- disappeared, 

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and they would believe him. 

00:12:47,936 --> 00:12:54,415 [Big Steve]
It says you were the first person to become a 4-star general, so, I mean, you were, you were high up there. 

00:12:54,416 --> 00:12:54,926 [Danny Roney]
Oh, but- 

00:12:54,926 --> 00:12:54,926 [Big Steve]
You were- 

00:12:54,926 --> 00:12:59,976 [Danny Roney]
Oh, but not... No. I was the first person to become a 4-star general over Delta Special Forces. 

00:12:59,976 --> 00:13:01,276 [Big Steve]
Right. Yeah, no, that's what it says here. 

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Delta. 

00:13:01,936 --> 00:13:01,976 [Big Steve]
Yeah. 

00:13:01,976 --> 00:13:03,956 [Danny Roney]
That's the highest branch of Special Forces. 

00:13:03,956 --> 00:13:04,996 [Big Steve]
Wow. 

00:13:04,996 --> 00:13:15,636 [Danny Roney]
Before me, it was nobody. The 2nd person to become a 4-star general was Lloyd J. Austin III, that Black guy that had left office before Hegseth. 

00:13:15,636 --> 00:13:25,756 [Big Steve]
How long would you be out? When they'd let you out, how long would it be until, what it says in your profile, you'd get kidnapped and then you'd wake up back in a cell? 

00:13:25,756 --> 00:13:57,156 [Danny Roney]
Sometimes it'd be 2 or 3 days. Sometimes, a, a few times it had been maybe a week or so. But it wasn't long at all. Majority of the time, it was like a day, the same day I end up right back in there, or the next day or 2 days later. It wouldn't take long. I realized that I was going against the guy, Lloyd J. Austin III, and the devil himself. 

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Mm-hmm. 

00:13:57,756 --> 00:14:36,016 [Danny Roney]
So Lloyd was working with the devil against me. Lloyd is not even a human being. He's not even from this planet, I swear to God. He's not even... If you... If they did a check of his body, his genitals, he, his, his private part, he don't have what we have as men. He has something, uh, a alien thing down there. What I wanted to also say to y'all is I have a... Over the years, I knew I was gonna have a big job as a prophet. A lot of my baby mamas, I told them that I wa- that I was a prophet and I was gonna need their help in the future. 

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Yeah. 

00:14:36,636 --> 00:14:51,396 [Danny Roney]
And when I need their help, I need them to come and assist me. And I gave them a lot of money. I gave all of my... Uh, some of them already had money, but I gave them money to keep them up and help them out a little bit more than what they already had. 

00:14:51,396 --> 00:14:52,356 [Big Steve]
Yeah, some of them, uh- 

00:14:52,356 --> 00:14:52,876 [Danny Roney]
Because- 

00:14:52,876 --> 00:15:03,336 [Big Steve]
So, so we're not just talking like, you're, you're not just talking like a few baby mamas or whatever. You actually say you've, you've had thousands of children by women around the world. 

00:15:03,336 --> 00:15:03,416 [Danny Roney]
Yes. 

00:15:03,416 --> 00:15:05,196 [Big Steve]
And these baby mamas- 

00:15:05,196 --> 00:15:05,206 [Danny Roney]
Yes 

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... we're not talking about, like, Angela who works at the liquor store down the street or what. We're talking Britney Spears, Madonna, Lady Gaga. 

00:15:14,996 --> 00:15:22,336 [Danny Roney]
Some of, some of them was girls from out the neighborhood that worked at the liquor store and stuff. Don't get me wrong from that too now. 

00:15:22,336 --> 00:15:23,016 [Big Steve]
Okay. 

00:15:23,016 --> 00:15:44,176 [Danny Roney]
'Cause I was all in my neighborhoods too. But outside the neighborhoods, when I would go to meet famous people, it would be like Mariah Carey, uh, Mary J. Blige, uh, Janet Jackson. And I had been seen in the public back in the days with these girl, these women. 

00:15:44,176 --> 00:15:44,776 [Big Steve]
Mm-hmm. 

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Wow. 

00:15:45,496 --> 00:15:53,396 [Danny Roney]
I've been in the media with them where they had seen me caught with a young man in the public and stuff. 

00:15:54,496 --> 00:15:57,936 [Danny Roney]
But that was so long ago. I used to have a mouth full of gold teeth 

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with a big diamond on the center of each tooth around the top and bottom. That's how my military picture ha- is. I was in the XXL magazine in one of the issues in 2005, XXL 

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magazine, the XXL. 

00:16:19,016 --> 00:16:19,656 [Sound Effect]
Yeah. 

00:16:19,656 --> 00:16:37,916 [Danny Roney]
In one of the issues of the, of the 12 months, I was in my military uniform on the front cover of the issue of the urban magazine because I had made 2 albums under Too $hort, the rapper/producer in Atlanta, Georgia back in '95. 

00:16:39,256 --> 00:17:34,956 [Danny Roney]
One came out in '95, one came out in 90 s- one came out in 96, one came out in 97, I believe, and both of them went platinum. And, um, he did a little thing. He was doing a little thing, trying to hope that I remember who I am and, and my, my past. Because while I was in prison, many people didn't know that I was being poisoned to keep me from remembering who I am, that I was in the military, or that I was the 1st person to finish all 98 degrees of Freemasonry. I was the 1st Black person born and raised in this country to finish all 98 degrees of Freemasonry. Once I finished the Ancient Egyptian rite of Memphis, they gave me as a present all the side degrees to the female degrees. But that's... That was something else that I did 

00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:40,176 [Danny Roney]
that was in the past, and it was under my name, Khalid Abdul Al-Mu'min, 

00:17:41,656 --> 00:17:44,676 [Danny Roney]
because I... Back in '95, '96, I was 

00:17:45,836 --> 00:17:57,896 [Danny Roney]
using my legal name on the street. But the courts don't like using my name 'cause they can't pronounce it, so they use Danny Roni. So I just go along with it- 

00:17:57,896 --> 00:17:58,016 [Big Steve]
Yeah 

00:17:58,016 --> 00:17:59,416 [Danny Roney]
... for the time being. 

00:17:59,416 --> 00:18:11,546 [Big Steve]
Easier to pronounce, that's for sure. So, so these baby mamas, I mean, you, you have a list on your pinpals.buzz profile, anyone that wants to look up Danny Roni. And I mean, if you just glance at the list- 

00:18:11,546 --> 00:18:12,006 [Danny Roney]
And I wasn't- 

00:18:12,006 --> 00:18:16,760 [Big Steve]
... I mean, I'm seeing Fantasia, I'm seeing Madonna- 

00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,680 [Big Steve]
I'm seeing both Kim and Khloe Kardashian. How- 

00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:21,840 [Danny Roney]
Yeah 

00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,000 [Big Steve]
... how did this happen? I mean, that's a lot of, 

00:18:25,340 --> 00:18:27,680 [Big Steve]
that's a lot of baby mamas, a lot of time. 

00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,870 [Danny Roney]
A lot of them took liking in me. I used to have a mouth full of gold with a di- with a big- 

00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:32,880 [Big Steve]
Mm 

00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:34,720 [Danny Roney]
... diamond on the center of each tooth. 

00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:34,980 [Sound Effect]
Oh. 

00:18:34,980 --> 00:18:41,210 [Danny Roney]
I was, I was young, and I was a little handsome, little dark-skinned little man. 

00:18:41,210 --> 00:18:41,300 [Big Steve]
Yeah. 

00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:53,220 [Danny Roney]
I was handsome when I was young. Them pictures that you're looking at of me now, I'm a, I'm a, I'm more mature. I'm older now. I got a beard now. I didn't have no beard back in the days. 

00:18:53,220 --> 00:18:53,370 [Big Steve]
Yeah. 

00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:55,680 [Danny Roney]
I didn't have... I couldn't even grow a beard- 

00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:55,780 [Big Steve]
Yeah 

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... back in the day for years. 

00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:02,540 [Big Steve]
But you still look good, man. I'm looking at these pictures. I think the beard is good on you, man. 

00:19:02,540 --> 00:19:03,060 [Danny Roney]
Thank you. 

00:19:03,060 --> 00:19:05,260 [Big Steve]
It gives me, like, a James Harden vibe. 

00:19:05,260 --> 00:19:29,820 [Danny Roney]
I, I... If you can get TMZ, um, live to, um, check, 'cause I, I know they always have some of them girls on their list that they are friends with or they can check with on the TV to see if I was lying or anything, and call them girls up live on TV and ask them. And then them girls will tell them, "Yeah, he's telling the truth. That's my baby daddy. 

00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:51,740 [Danny Roney]
Yeah." And they be like, "Well, how he got both of y'all?" "I don't know, but he's my baby daddy." "What's wrong with him?" Y- you like, "Well, he say he need y'all help. He need a lawyer 'cause he don't have access to his money right now." I'm married, but my wife don't do nothing for me. She the one that got power of attorney over my bank accounts. 

00:19:51,740 --> 00:19:52,290 [Sound Effect]
[chuckles] 

00:19:52,290 --> 00:19:56,880 [Danny Roney]
She... last that I knew, sh- we had 27 kids together. 

00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,720 [Big Steve]
27 with one woman? 

00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:07,200 [Danny Roney]
She had a set of... Yeah, she had a set of... The oldest 3 was triplets, 2 boys and one girl, and then was 4 sets of 6 couplets. 

00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,020 [Sound Effect]
Oh. 

00:20:08,020 --> 00:20:13,120 [Danny Roney]
So, 3 boys and 3 girls, 3 boys, 3 girls, 3 boys, 3 girls, 3 boys and 3 girls. 

00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:14,100 [Big Steve]
Oh my God. 

00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:14,390 [Sound Effect]
Yeah, that's a lot, yeah. 

00:20:14,390 --> 00:20:19,450 [Big Steve]
So much for Jon and Kate Plus 8. This is gonna take over reality TV now. That's incredible. 

00:20:19,450 --> 00:20:20,440 [Sound Effect]
Yeah, more than Octomom too. 

00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:21,259 [Big Steve]
Octomom, yeah. 

00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:23,590 [Sound Effect]
Yeah. So let me ask you a- 

00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:23,590 [Danny Roney]
I was- 

00:20:23,590 --> 00:20:47,900 [Sound Effect]
... a question, if I can. So growing up, you know, obviously now they have you there in the civil commitment for mental health. So growing up or, like, all those times that you got arrested, did they ever, like, evaluate you, or were you ever at some point taking, like, medication, or did they give you, like, a diagnosis? Or how, how did it go about, you know, them pretty much committing you there for your mental health? 

00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:59,040 [Danny Roney]
When, when they w- wanted to throw me out the way, all them years they was poisoning me in prison, they had me in mental health to make it like I was crazy and stuff, you know- 

00:20:59,040 --> 00:20:59,260 [Big Steve]
Mm 

00:20:59,260 --> 00:21:06,210 [Danny Roney]
... to keep me out the way where nobody would think nothing. They'd think like, "Oh, he, he done went crazy or something." You know what I'm saying? 

00:21:06,210 --> 00:21:06,220 [Big Steve]
Mm-hmm. 

00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:14,500 [Danny Roney]
But the whole time, I was straight. And now they simply committed me... they got me on a civil commitment, telling me I violated probation. 

00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:18,560 [Big Steve]
What's the civil commitment there? What, what is that for? Why do they do that? 

00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,640 [Danny Roney]
For the mental health probation thing that they had me on. 

00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:21,700 [Big Steve]
Mm-hmm. 

00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:23,740 [Danny Roney]
All I needed was somebody to help me. 

00:21:23,740 --> 00:21:25,069 [Big Steve]
Right. Do a lot of people- 

00:21:25,069 --> 00:21:25,090 [Danny Roney]
And that's what I- 

00:21:25,090 --> 00:21:31,010 [Big Steve]
... seem to think that? Do, do people that are there housed with you in the prison, do they believe what you're telling them or- 

00:21:31,010 --> 00:21:44,360 [Danny Roney]
No, no, not a lot of... Yeah, a lot of them believe what I be telling them. I'm locked up right now for a threatening letter, for a threatening letter that I wrote to a lawyer a long time ago, back in 2007. 

00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:45,100 [Sound Effect]
Mm-hmm. 

00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:48,200 [Big Steve]
I don't know. They're saying you robbed, like, a dollar store or something. I don't know. 

00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,810 [Danny Roney]
They didn't charge me with robbing that store. It was my store. I owned that- 

00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:51,810 [Sound Effect]
Oh 

00:21:51,810 --> 00:21:55,950 [Danny Roney]
... Dollar General, that franchise of the Dollar General store. 

00:21:55,950 --> 00:21:55,980 [Sound Effect]
Yeah. 

00:21:55,980 --> 00:21:58,880 [Danny Roney]
That's why they couldn't charge me with the robbery. 

00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,030 [Big Steve]
Mm-hmm. 

00:21:59,030 --> 00:22:01,470 [Danny Roney]
They charged me with shooting a gun inside the store. 

00:22:01,470 --> 00:22:45,180 [Big Steve]
Danny Toron Roney, it's been great having you on the podcast. Thanks for calling in and joining us. If you have heard Danny's story and you wanna learn more about him or about what's going on in his world, uh, Danny Toron Roney, number 16494-171. He's at the Federal Medical Center, PO Box 1600, Butner, North Carolina, 27509. Or just go to penpals.buzz in the, uh, search box up at the top. Search for Danny Roney. It's R-O-N-E-Y. And you can see his pictures, read more of his story, and find different ways to get in touch with him. You can even send him a message for free, my favorite four-letter word, free, 

00:22:46,260 --> 00:23:22,900 [Big Steve]
right on the penpals.buzz, uh, website. Just, uh, kind of at the bottom of his, uh, profile, it'll say, "Send this inmate your 1st message for free." And, uh, it's that easy. We'll make sure he gets the message. Prison Pen Pal Podcast. Man, it's been great having everybody with us again. If you are a woman who's incarcerated or you have been incarcerated as a female, or you know a female who's currently locked up, we wanna hear your thoughts on [upbeat music] whether or not you get the same treatment that the men do. podcast@penpals.buzz or 888-273-6725. We'll see you in a couple weeks. 

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